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Sleep troubles

Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:59 am
by Dryed
Anyone can relate? Resting is really hard since pssd,due to vivid dreams and poor quality of sleeps.
What are the chemicals imbalances involved in this situation?

Re: Sleep troubles

Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:20 am
by Twentyoneguns
Hi Dryed

I can't get more than 1.5 hours of sleep per night
I don't have any trouble getting to sleep, but wake one and a half hours later +/- 3 or 4 minutes. If I go to bed too late, i.e. 2am I've missed my sleeping "slot" and don't sleep at all.

Even if I exhaust myself during the day, it's the same.

After a year of this I don't know how I'm still able to function!

OTC sleeping aids have no effect.

Also I don't dream at all... Though 1.5 hours is not long enough to get into REM sleep, which I gather is when the dreaming goes on. My memory is now terrible so I guess I may dream but just don't remember.

This started after just one 50mg tablet of Sertraline.

Though as usual my doctor says it must be due to something else...

Things I've tried are, cooler temperature in the bedroom, not eating too late, no tech in the bedroom, blackout blinds, milky drinks before going to bed, no caffeine after 4pm....all to no effect.

One year on, no remission of the symptoms in my signature.

Hoping you find some relief soon.

21g

Re: Sleep troubles

Unread postPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:40 am
by Dryed
Exactly like you sleep is always hard to reach,without rem phases,absolutely no restfull.
Don't know how this is possible and how we and many of us are still alive.

from yesterday i found relief after one hour of aerobic exercise in the park,sun,and 4 mg melatonin daily.
The healing process pass without any doubt from the necessity to normalize the sleep pattern.
So a good sleep is one of the priority or the first one for us.

Is a slow process,very slow,there are no tricks but we need to push hour body and mind trough exercise to restore the stolen chemicals imbalances.
I've talked to a neurologist who know pssd and he is alright with me.
Hope this can be useful.

Re: Sleep troubles

Unread postPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:15 pm
by sadKeanu
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Re: Sleep troubles

Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:54 am
by Twentyoneguns
Hi Again

I have recently met a Neuroscientist who lectures and performs research at the local university, his speciality is circadian rhythms . I brought up the subject of insomnia due to taking an SSRI and told him the problems I was having.

He told me that the use of a daylight lamp has been found very effective in bringing the sleep cycle back to normal. He told me a dark room is essential i.e. very thick curtains and to switch the day light lamp on at the same time each morning....I have set mine to come on at 7am for one hour then get up, he says about one month should be enough to re establish a good sleep pattern.

Ive been doing this for one week and I'll let you know how things go.

I recently bought a fitbit which in theory can show you how well (or otherwise) your sleep pattern is. It has refused to believe Ive been asleep for all but one night in the last week!

21g

Re: Sleep troubles

Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:52 am
by buffkin14
i often had this problem early into my pssd months

i would wake up with only 4 hrs of sleep and could not fall back asleep

my whole life was normally 8-10 hrs of sleep was normal

it doesnt trouble me too much anymore

but it was weird. i was like tired and not tired at the same time. felt like something was wrong with me like a hormonal imbalance or something i dont know how to describe how that feels it just felt like something was wrong in my head/brain]

Re: Sleep troubles

Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:46 pm
by JayR
Mechanisms: Low SERT/desensitized 5-HT1A causing too much serotonin/Amygdala reactivity and perhaps, upon discontinuation, inflammatory factors and histamine are too high.
--> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3194072/
--> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19759542
--> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3847723/

Re: Sleep troubles

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:20 am
by magnilo
i have the opposite problem
hypersomnia
i can lay down and usually within 3minutes im asleep
independently of having received terrible news or anything

Re: Sleep troubles

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:17 am
by shadowMan
During SSRI I could sleep a lot, I miss this.

Now I sleep 5-6 hours per day, and when I try to sleep more I can, when Im falling asleep, Im kicked back to awake and my heart is racing, like a mini panick attack

Re: Sleep troubles

Unread postPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:25 am
by Luis Fernando Lopez
I have difficulty going to sleep at night, although dreams are coming back, it's not consistent and they are not all that vivid at least not how they were pre-PSSD.