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Why the multiple sclerosis’ symptoms are so similar?

Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:23 pm
by Ciprofloxacin
Hey forum. I just wanted to let you know the Multiple sclerosis’ symptoms. According to a page which I got from ray peat forum, Multiple sclerosis may caused by sudden hormone imbalances. Maybe I’m the only person who have problems with muscle coordination, but I just want to let everyone think about that possibility.

Topic: https://raypeatforum.com/community/thre ... nes.12571/

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Re: Why the multiple sclerosis’ symptoms are so similar?

Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:52 am
by Dubya_B
Hello. Wanted to chime-in here and say that I have a close acquaintance with MS. We were discussing our respective conditions and our mental/neurological symptoms are strikingly similar, although hers sound as if they are much milder. ...Perhaps she is just more accepting of it. Emotional blunting, anhedonia, depression, personality changes, and memory problems are something we both deal with. I can see it in her that she is one of the most un-emotional people I know, next to myself.

I chalked this up to the neurosteroid deficiency in MS patients, that was recently discovered to be a severe deficiency in PFS patients, and making the assumption the same applies to PAS and PSSD.

An article discussing high levels of 5-ar-1-silencing miRNA and decreased levels of neurosteroids in MS patients:
http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/134/9/2703

The PFS neurosteroid study:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960076017301024

She doesn't really have sexual dysfunction, outside of what comes along with emotional bluntness and anhedonia, but has mild balance and coordination problems, as you mention.
I'm eager to see how the allopregnanolone precursor drug (SAGE-217) effects us if/when it is made available as a depression treatment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAGE-217

Re: Why the multiple sclerosis’ symptoms are so similar?

Unread postPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:21 am
by Ciprofloxacin
Dubya_B wrote:Hello. Wanted to chime-in here and say that I have a close acquaintance with MS. We were discussing our respective conditions and our mental/neurological symptoms are strikingly similar, although hers sound as if they are much milder. ...Perhaps she is just more accepting of it. Emotional blunting, anhedonia, depression, personality changes, and memory problems are something we both deal with. I can see it in her that she is one of the most un-emotional people I know, next to myself.

I chalked this up to the neurosteroid deficiency in MS patients, that was recently discovered to be a severe deficiency in PFS patients, and making the assumption the same applies to PAS and PSSD.

An article discussing high levels of 5-ar-1-silencing miRNA and decreased levels of neurosteroids in MS patients:
http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/134/9/2703

The PFS neurosteroid study:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960076017301024

She doesn't really have sexual dysfunction, outside of what comes along with emotional bluntness and anhedonia, but has mild balance and coordination problems, as you mention.
I'm eager to see how the allopregnanolone precursor drug (SAGE-217) effects us if/when it is made available as a depression treatment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAGE-217


Actually, I don't really care the sexual aspect of my problems that much. If you look that way, my problems seem more like MS. Additionaly to M. coord. I have strange visual sight problems since pssd.

I would have been not caring this disease that much if it haven't been worsened. I have forget the name of the foods, my friends, every type of word you can think, and even even my name! I don't know how I can heal this, how can I reverse this much damage?

Re: Why the multiple sclerosis’ symptoms are so similar?

Unread postPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:32 pm
by Dubya_B
That's very concerning if this is progressively getting worse for you. They also sound like very severe neurological symptoms of PSSD/post-SSRI. Have you been checked for MS lesions for the sake of ruling it out? There is always the slim chance development of MS with a manifestation of some sexual symptoms coincided with SSRI use. Not sure which is worse though. MS is at least treatable in many cases.

Re: Why the multiple sclerosis’ symptoms are so similar?

Unread postPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:20 pm
by Ciprofloxacin
Dubya_B wrote:That's very concerning if this is progressively getting worse for you. They also sound like very severe neurological symptoms of PSSD/post-SSRI. Have you been checked for MS lesions for the sake of ruling it out? There is always the slim chance development of MS with a manifestation of some sexual symptoms coincided with SSRI use. Not sure which is worse though. MS is at least treatable in many cases.


I had made a MRI test 3-4 months ago but I don’t know if it supposed to show any sign if I have MS. I can’t access the results now also. I should again go to a doctor maybe.


I learned that MR scans are used to check MS also. My mri scan was clean so it’s probably not MS, I guess.

Re: Why the multiple sclerosis’ symptoms are so similar?

Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:04 pm
by Dubya_B
It is most likely PSSD, but it would be worth double checking to be certain. I have seen doctors repeatedly overlook glaring indications of a problem until it was brought to their attention.