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Which foods make you crash?

Unread postPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:25 am
by Meso
Many people report crashing after eating certain foods. I crash severely after eating spinach, garlic, ginger, ochro, eggs, and high proteins (fish especially). Many told me they crash after eating spinach and ginger as well. I couldn't find a common link between these foods - it looks random. It's not tryptophan since I don't crash after taking serotonergics, but maybe others do.

Gut dysbiosis is very common in PSSD, so this is not surprising. Finding a common link can take us a long way.

Symptoms of crashing:
- Intense brainfog
- Headache
- Memory problems
- Tiredness or feeling wired.
- Worsening of all PSSD symptoms.

Re: Which foods make you crash?

Unread postPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:40 pm
by succubus76
I'm not sure. Sometimes i feel more dp/dr and i know that there must be a reason la but i havent find the connection yet.

I would edit this post if i find something

Re: Which foods make you crash?

Unread postPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:46 pm
by Tree
Ginger made me crash a year ago and have yet to recover. Since then I've become very sensitive to certain food, in particular, magnesium rich foods like spinach and oatmeal. After a couple of days eating these foods my symptoms worsen. If I eat garlic, even a little bit, makes me extremely insomniac. Onion seems to help with erections but I'm scared to eat all the time because I don't want to crash. I eat eggs everyday but I'll cut them out to see if anything improves. My diet is very clean. It usually consists of eggs, chicken, beef, bread, white rice, beans, and cow's milk. Magnesium rich foods are avoided like vegetables and wheat.

Meso reasons why I think these foods can trigger crashes in people with pssd at least in my experience

Ginger is a 5ht1a agonist
Magnesium always make my symptoms worse if I supplement or eat magnesium rich food.

Re: Which foods make you crash?

Unread postPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:17 pm
by DrugsAreBad
There is no "none" option! They make no difference.

Re: Which foods make you crash?

Unread postPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:39 am
by ErgogenicHealth
Tree wrote:Ginger made me crash a year ago and have yet to recover. Since then I've become very sensitive to certain food, in particular, magnesium rich foods like spinach and oatmeal. After a couple of days eating these foods my symptoms worsen. If I eat garlic, even a little bit, makes me extremely insomniac. Onion seems to help with erections but I'm scared to eat all the time because I don't want to crash. I eat eggs everyday but I'll cut them out to see if anything improves. My diet is very clean. It usually consists of eggs, chicken, beef, bread, white rice, beans, and cow's milk. Magnesium rich foods are avoided like vegetables and wheat.

Meso reasons why I think these foods can trigger crashes in people with pssd at least in my experience

Ginger is a 5ht1a agonist
Magnesium always make my symptoms worse if I supplement or eat magnesium rich food.



MAN!!! We are literally the same!!!

Ginger does this to me also, and takes days to recover.

Ashwagandha is what caused my PSSD in the first place, and I am seeing resolution with Cyproheptadine usage, but only 4 days ater a single dose, I get a rebound cure.

Re: Which foods make you crash?

Unread postPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:58 am
by fema4psyciatrists
my injuries to lack of digestion and these types of pains and allergies happened as well as the PSSD. The pain and lack of digestion impacts strongly on my PSSD, the lack of erections. Dr Goldstein in his video said something like sexual dysfunction is whenever whatever is causing the inhibition of erection/arousal response is stronger than response itself, and adjusting that would bring the normal response back. So that would make sense why digestion problems can impact on anyone with PSSD.

It certainly does for me. Anything that dehydrates me (including not drinking lots and lots of water) has a huge impact on my lack of erection, so most of the stuff you list. Microwave food seems to dehydrate food and me, so would others please test what microwave food effect has on their PSSD please? The same things as you, eggs, fish and protiens and onions make my PSSD worse as well as milk and chocolate and oats porridge and spinach. They all are dehydrating, even more so if fried in dehydrating oils. Ginger while potentially thinning the blood and improving blood flow is also dehydrating. I believe you are also supposed to take most medications with water as well.

I hope this makes some sense to anybody else, please try the microwave or dehydration effects on PSSD yourselves as well. Thanks for all you are doing Meso!

Re: Which foods make you crash?

Unread postPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:53 am
by hs1312
carrot juice

Re: Which foods make you crash?

Unread postPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:59 am
by Meso
I think I have an idea why we react to random foods.

See, I have a patient who suffers from severe gut issues that's causing her autoimmune attacks and several cancers (bless her soul). She reacts violently to all foods so they put her on specialized I.V. Total Parenteral Nutrition (TPN).

Turns out she is suffering from mast-cell activation syndrome (MCAS). She was put on Ketotifen, which is one of only few drugs that can stabilize mast cells. It's an antihistamine.

Maybe we have leaky gut or somesuch after SSRIs. After all, these drugs mess up with the microbiome.

Re: Which foods make you crash?

Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm
by Tree
The last few days to a week, I've been eating yogurt in the morning. Last couple of days, I've noticed my brain fog getting gradually worse and worse to the point, where it's the now, the worse it's been in a long time. My dick is also feeling more numb than usual. I've crashed from other foods like ginger and spinach so it wouldn't surprise me that yogurt is making me feel worse. I suspect the probiotics are either increasing serotonin in the brain gut axis or interfering with the 5ht1a receptor somehow. I only get this symptomatic from magnesium or 5ht1a agonists.

Re: Which foods make you crash?

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:31 am
by yesterday
Like DrugsAreBad, I want to say "none". I have a varied diet with lots of vegetables, legumes, leafy greens, garlic, and fish. I have no gut issues and there doesn't seem to be any correlation between my diet and my libido.