Glitch: Estradiol+DHT

[Glitch]

Hey, guys. I've decided that I will be ordering Estradiol-17b and DHT to see if it works as well for me as it did for Lost_soul. The reason for this thread, is firstly, I will be taking a diary and reporting it here. Second, I would appreciate any suggestions about dosing as I have no fucking idea what I'm doing and I'm somewhat reluctant.

I plan on taking "Estrofem" 2 mgs every day. I don't know anything about estrogen, but I plan on starting with a small dose like .5mgs and increase it over the course of a week, until I get to 2mgs. I doubt I'll go over that.

The DHT is "Andractim Testosterone Gel". I'm still reading about the doses but I'm not gonna lie, I don't like the idea of rubbing that shit on my body. I don't even really understand this part of the treatment or whether I need it.

The whole thing sounds pretty shaky but If you can go like a year or two without feminizing effects, what do I have to lose?

So, sound like a plan or what?

[Jones]

I dont know but i wouldnt do it. Does it worth the risk? You yourself said that you have no idea how would that work. How much have you been of the ssris? What are your symptoms? Have you seen any improvements-changes over the time?

[DoIt]

Like you said, I would go really low dose without DHT and see if it helps. I think it's worth the risk, it's not like you're gonna wake up two days after with D cup sized boobs. If you notice any strange things in that department simply stop.

[Kk88]

I dont know but i wouldnt do it. Does it worth the risk? You yourself said that you have no idea how would that work. How much have you been of the ssris? What are your symptoms? Have you seen any improvements-changes over the time?

I think most people here with long term pssd would say it is worth the risk - how are we going to find a cure if we don't try things? We're not scientists, we're never going to fully understand things but we need to trial new solutions.


I understand lost soul started to get results on the estrogen without DHT so definitely start without first. Go a few weeks and then reasses. Lost soul has struggled for dosing info so agree with your thoughts of starting low and building up.

Good luck and looking forward to your results

[lost_soul]

I would start with 4mg estrofem and a gram of dht gel a day. If you're not getting results from that try lowering each one independently from each other. Also, try injecting the estrogen (and dht if you can find a source for that). That's my next step if I plateau with my current use.

Also, if you feel comfortable with it add as much info about your lifestyle as you can (exercise, diet, weight, unhealthy habits, sleep, etc)

[Glitch]

Jones, to answer your questions, I have been off of SSRIS for like 14-15 months. I now receive TMS treatments for 6 weeks out of the year which works pretty great. I have seen improvements in both libido and erections since coming off Citalopram 30mgs but it's been VERY slow and I'm nowhere near 100%. I fear I may have plateaued.
Otherwise, I am a very healthy 31 year old male. The only abnormal tests I've ever had were low vitamin D which was corrected and I have one variant of MTHFR which I really don't think is that big of a deal. I always wondered if it was correlated with PSSD though.
Trust me, I'm not keen on taking fucking estrogen to fix PSSD but after reading Lost_Soul's success, I can't help but wonder if estrogen, even if indirectly, is somehow the missing link. Also, I'm not generally reckless and I would never push the boundaries on a treatment like this - ESPECIALLY after the whole SSRI/PSSD debacle.

[Juvo]

Jones, to answer your questions, I have been off of SSRIS for like 14-15 months. I now receive TMS treatments for 6 weeks out of the year which works pretty great. I have seen improvements in both libido and erections since coming off Citalopram 30mgs but it's been VERY slow and I'm nowhere near 100%. I fear I may have plateaued.
Otherwise, I am a very healthy 31 year old male. The only abnormal tests I've ever had were low vitamin D which was corrected and I have one variant of MTHFR which I really don't think is that big of a deal. I always wondered if it was correlated with PSSD though.
Trust me, I'm not keen on taking fucking estrogen to fix PSSD but after reading Lost_Soul's success, I can't help but wonder if estrogen, even if indirectly, is somehow the missing link. Also, I'm not generally reckless and I would never push the boundaries on a treatment like this - ESPECIALLY after the whole SSRI/PSSD debacle.

Someone, and maybe it was you glitch, posted about MTHFR on here and how overmethelaters should avoid SSRIs

[Juvo]

Jones, to answer your questions, I have been off of SSRIS for like 14-15 months. I now receive TMS treatments for 6 weeks out of the year which works pretty great. I have seen improvements in both libido and erections since coming off Citalopram 30mgs but it's been VERY slow and I'm nowhere near 100%. I fear I may have plateaued.
Otherwise, I am a very healthy 31 year old male. The only abnormal tests I've ever had were low vitamin D which was corrected and I have one variant of MTHFR which I really don't think is that big of a deal. I always wondered if it was correlated with PSSD though.
Trust me, I'm not keen on taking fucking estrogen to fix PSSD but after reading Lost_Soul's success, I can't help but wonder if estrogen, even if indirectly, is somehow the missing link. Also, I'm not generally reckless and I would never push the boundaries on a treatment like this - ESPECIALLY after the whole SSRI/PSSD debacle.

Someone, and maybe it was you glitch, posted about MTHFR on here and how overmethelaters should avoid SSRIs

[forexworld12]

Hey glitch why not try a estrogenic beta receptor herb which acts like estrodiol 17b like the DIM supplement. One man got cured from it in the forum. Its both an alpha and beta receptor agonist. Its a herb so why dont u start the trial from this and if it doesnt cure you increase the dosage and of it still doesnt reverse the symptoms then try the chemical version

[Glitch]

Hey glitch why not try a estrogenic beta receptor herb which acts like estrodiol 17b like the DIM supplement. One man got cured from it in the forum. Its both an alpha and beta receptor agonist. Its a herb so why dont u start the trial from this and if it doesnt cure you increase the dosage and of it still doesnt reverse the symptoms then try the chemical version

That's not a bad idea. I was actually under the impression that DIM lowers estrogen in the body but I don't know much about it. I believe I've actually taken it for a little while. My only concern would be that it's not potent enough like the Estrogen pills. Thus, way less effective.