Energy drinks - They help me but why?

[logicalscout]

Energy drinks seem to have a a robust anti-depressant effect (Even more so than 300mg Moclobemide). They also have been able to cause mild windows (Slight increase in desire) every time (Not pre-SSRI but good enough I’d really like to understand why). They just make me “feel good”.

The energy drinks consist of the following:
Caffeine (80mg-100mg)
B Vitamins:
- Riboflavin (1.3mg)
- Niacin (8mg)
- b6 (1.3mg)
- b12 (1.6 micrograms)
- pantothenic acid (69mg)
- inositol (50mg)
Taurine (550mg)
Glucorolactone (69mg)

Observations:
Coffee or Caffeine pills don’t seem to have the same effect
Ritalin does not have the same effect
Taking high dose B-Vitamins don’t seem to replicate the effect
Taurine somewhat does replicate the effect but not completely

Theory:
Neurosteroids have been potentially implicated in the PSSD, Taurine is a GABA-A agonist, somewhat mimicking the effect of Allopregnenalone (allosteric modulator of GABA). The caffeine with the B-vitamins have an effect on the Serotonin/Dopamine production. The combination of these help with the symptoms of PSSD. I think it is a combination of one of the B Vitamins and Taurine that help but I can't figure out which B Vitamin.

Does anyone else improve by drinking energy drinks or have thoughts on why they improve my PSSD symptoms?

[nasibi]

I think it is the combination of Caffeine ane B6.

[logicalscout]

I just took 1g of Taurine with B Vitamins (Higher dose than those of the energy drink). I do feel a little buzz, but I think you're right, the caffeine is contributing to it.

[Glk87]

I take my protein delayed release caffeine lasts 8 hours helps a bit might be worth a try?

[James42S]

I think that nuken can solve this problem much better than anything else.

[north4]

same observations here... and fluoride toothpaste, swallow, helps me too, much more focus and better metabolism, beard grows faster, maybe via thyroid signaling. our hypophyse seem to be unregulated, maybe via bacterial infection.

[iull1k]

same observations here... and fluoride toothpaste, swallow, helps me too, much more focus and better metabolism, beard grows faster, maybe via thyroid signaling. our hypophyse seem to be unregulated, maybe via bacterial infection.

I don't want to offend you but i'm so tired and bored when i see speculations about bacterial infection, gut fungus and other shit. There are lot of guys who are in this state from one pill of SSRI/ Isotretinoin/ Finasteride / Minoxidil/ Statin / Saw Palmetto. Do you have logic? How bacterial infection fits in this shit???

Fluoride is known for last 20 years already that he modulate androgen activity.
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... _male_mice

"Compared with the control group, expressions of AR protein decreased significantly in the 200 and 300 mg NaF/ L groups (p<0.05). With quantitative real-time polymerase chain reaction (QRT-PCR), we also assessed the expression of AR mRNA by culturing primary Sertoli cells from immature mice with different concentrations of fluoride (10 -6 , 10 -5 , 10 -4 , and 10 -3 mol/ L) for 48 hr, resulting in a significant F-induced decline in the AR mRNA level in the cells compared to controls

Effect of sodium fluoride on androgen receptor expression in male mice | Request PDF. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... _male_mice [accessed Aug 16 2018]."

[been_too_long]

I don't want to offend you but i'm so tired and bored when i see speculations about bacterial infection, gut fungus and other shit. There are lot of guys who are in this state from one pill of SSRI/ Isotretinoin/ Finasteride / Minoxidil/ Statin / Saw Palmetto. Do you have logic? How bacterial infection fits in this shit???

If this was posted on facebook Id make 50 accounts just to "like" that comment over and over.

[north4]

what about a fact based discussion ? you think i cant be because you dont want it to be... in my opinion there are many ways to rome....